EPISODE RELEASED 1st MARCH 2023
WHAT ARE THE IMPLICATIONS OF JUNG'S THEORIES ABOUT THE COLLECTIVE UNCONSCIOUS, ARCHETYPES, SYNCHRONICITY AND INDIVIDUATION? WHAT CAN THEY SUGGEST ABOUT THE NATURE OF REALITY AND THE ANOMALIES IN MODERN SCIENCE?
In this episode we have the fascinating topic of the metaphysics implied by Carl Jung’s theories to discuss. Jung is one of the great hero’s of this podcast, we covered the collective unconscious in episode #6 and synchronicity in episode #14 for listeners who want to go into detail about that. And the topic of The Shadow is coming up too, so look out for that. But to understand the metaphysical implications of his theories we need a special guest.
He is philosopher and author Bernardo Kastrup. Bernardo is the executive director of Essentia Foundation and his work has been leading the modern renaissance of metaphysical idealism, the notion that reality is essentially mental (he has a PHD in philosophy). As a scientist, Bernardo has worked for the European Organization for Nuclear Research (CERN) (he also has a PHD in Computer science!). He has written many academic papers and books, has appeared on many media outlets and writes regularly for the Scientific American.
Today we’ll be mostly speaking about one of his most recent books “Decoding Jung’s Metaphysics, the archetypal semantics of an experiential universe”. But we do take time first to talk about his scientific and philosophical worldview, as it related directly to Jung’s.
What we discuss:
00:00 Intro
06:40 Materialism VS the church: The history of Idealism
12:10 Materialism was a weapon against the church
14:20 The dissociative boundary between us and the mind at large
16:40 A field of mind
17:20 Split personality MRI scans are markedly different
21:00 Life is what dissociation looks like
22:20 Neural correlates + interacting across the dissociative boundary
25:50 Anaesthesia: Mistaking unresponsiveness for unconsciousness
29:45 Jung’s Metaphysics
31:20 The unconscious is active and creative, not a passive container
34:50 ‘The light’ of metacognition
38:40 Archetypes are primordial templates of manifestation
39:40 ‘The ego is a little boat floating on a raging ocean of psychic activity that it cannot control’
43:20 Was Jung an idealist?
46:00 Causality + synchronicity: Wolfgang Pauli and Jung
47:10 Individual quantum events are not causal, so they are governed by synchronicities
48:00 Causality itself is an aggregate effect of microscopic level synchronistic effects
53:40 There is an organising principle underlying nature, that you can’t isolate under laboratory conditions
55:50 Active Imagination: Interacting with the imaginal field
01:01:00 The psyche is an ‘Ousia’: something in and of itself
01:03:00 James Hollis: One of the best Jungian analysts and authors
01:04:40 Bernardo’s midlife crisis - the first and second half of life
01:06:20 Individuation explained
01:09:20 ‘The freedom of the Slave’: The impersonal flow of nature channeled through you
01:11:50 The difference between the individuation in the second part of life and the eastern idea of renunciation, and ‘leaving’ the world
01:20:50 Etiology: spontaneous VS deliberate purpose
01:22:20 Individuation = bringing the unconscious into consciousness
01:24:20 Natures mind may not have cognitive planning abilities, be personal or have awareness
01:26:20 Interpreting quantum phenomena through an idealist, Jungian lens
01:34:20 Physical quantities only exist if you look, if you measure
01:35:20 Entanglement and materialism’s difficulty
01:40:20 The states of the world are not physical but probabilistic states, physical states arise from measurement
01:45:20 The implication of the relativity of time regarding evolution
01:46:20 Space time is not fundamental, it’s a cognitive instrument
01:48:20 Primordial truth beyond space time, is projected into space-time
01:51:50 Evolution is a spatio-temporal projection
01:53:30 Are Psi phenomena and military UAP experiencers manifestations of the unconscious?
02:01:20 Anomalous ‘traffic’ across the dissociative boundary
02:02:20 Whoever is behind UAP phenomena knows something about reality that we don’t
02:03:40 Humility in the face of the unknown about the nature of reality
References:
“Decoding Jung’s Metaphysics, the archetypal semantics of an experiential universe” Bernardo Kastrup
“Synchronicity: An Acausal Connecting Principle” Carl Jung
‘Ousia’ in Greek
“Science Ideated: The Fall Of Matter And The Contours Of The Next Mainstream Scientific Worldview” Bernardo Kastrup